watch out for a favourite family member.... sigh!

hi royce
and which state is it that provides this system
just guessing ----is it w.a ??
i wonder if there is a clause in the system where as :::if your not a permanant resident that one cant do this ?????
i agree with making road law national but which states laws are going to be chosen???
a huge conference is needed before this could happen to select a sensible mixture of the different states rules applyed
do you think this will ever happen ???
cheers and hny

Sounds like the sensible young thing might be in for a bit of a shock Royce, that's if she is returning to Vic at 17 and a half. Regardless of state who issues the licence, if she's driving in Vic she'll have to display Red "P's and can only carry one peer in the vehicle. If she's living in Vic, she'll have to get licensed here which means she can't till she's 18 anyway. If she'd working and living in Vic, she's only got three months to change and if she doesn't is considered unlicensed meaning a a significant fine if she's caught. Had this debate last week with my brother who's a sherrif in a one horse town near the SA border. Apparently a few of the young colts in his neighbourhood have tried the same thing.

These are the sought of things that COAG were supposed to sort out but it ends up being nothing more than a bunch of government employed lawyers from each Attorney Generals Department having a peeing contest and nothing gets done.

HNY. Mick

Gidday Royce

Perhaps you could explain a bit more. If it is WA you are referring to it is my understanding that you may well be able to take the driving test here at 16 and a half but you won't get a full licence and be allowed to drive when not accompanied by a fuly licensed driver until age 17. In the interim you have to log 25 hours of supervised driving and then pass a computer based hazard perception test before a full licence is issued. I would be surprised if it is legal to drive in another state on a WA provisional licence which is really only a step up from a learner's permit.

Cheers

Rocco

Hi Royce

My nephew recently came over from Broken Hill thinking to do the same thing, and he got his "L" plates, now he has his "P" plates for 12 months, and is time restricted.

When he goes back to Broken Hill, he has a set time period in which he must change his licence back, or pay a fine, so in reality, the travelling alone has cost him more than he had planned to pay.

I do understand how these youth feel. Admittedly I am from the sticks, and I have been drivivng on properties since I was about 10, and even back then, I was impatient to get my licence, but could not until I was 18.

I believe the licencing system could soon turn national anyway, I have been told the coding (classes) are already natiuonal anyway.

Cheers

Just saying..............

Australia has one of the most restrictive licensing programs in the world.

Here is the requirements for South Dakota in the USA:

South Dakota Driver License Requirements at-a-glance:

Minimum Age for Learner Permit 14 years
Learner Permit Holding Period 6 months (3 months if you've successfully completed an approved drivers education course)
Minimum Age for Driver License 14 years, 6 months for a restricted minor’s permit (or 14 years, 3 months if successfully completed an approved drivers education course); 16 yrs for an operator’s license
Road Test Yes
Minimum Amount of Supervised Driving None
Unsupervised Driving Rules Restricted minor’s license holders may drive unsupervised between the hours of 6am and 10pm if they have their parents’ permission. After these hours, a parent/guardian who holds a valid driver's license must be seated in the front passenger seat of the vehicle.
Passenger Rules None
Other At 14 years, if an applicant has completed driver education and held a learner permit for 3 months they may obtain a restricted minor’s permit. At 16 years they are eligible for a full driver's license

I wonder what residential address she gave??

Yet another strong case for the abolition of States .. a situation that only came about so that they could get Federation through. We are well past that now, surely.

Sounds like someone is bending the rules and changing their "normal" place of residence.

I don't like it. If its good enough for my sons then its good enough for your "close relative". Sorry but the rules are there to protect us all from inexperienced drivers.

If what I am reading "between the lines" is correct and she is cheating then I hope she gets booked.

Phil

Regardless of whether this young lady has 'used the system' to get her full licence earlier, as scary as it is for us parents, they really only start to gain the experience necessary for surviving on the roads once they get out there on their own. Even the licensing Police officer said the same to my youngest when she got her licence. Good luck Royce - you say she is sensible, so with good advice from you and lots of experience, I'm sure there is one good driver in the making.

We don't need to abolish the states to make licensing of drivers and vehicles as well as road rules uniform across the country. As it is the states treat each other like hostile enemies and hang on to their power by keeping things a little different in each state - quite ridiculous - we are one Country.

Motherhen

A few "kids" a going into the ACT from NSW to get there licence. Apparently there are no p plates or less time on them and they are allowed to drive at 100 instead of the lower speed in NSW. With this licence they are not restricted in other states.